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The SWG moderators have recently been discussing the possibility of setting up a "satellite group" on Tumblr. Like our current satellite groups on LiveJournal, Dreamwidth, and Yahoo! Groups, this group would be run under the SWG guidelines as a space for the Silmarillion fandom.

The problem is that none of the SWG moderators have much experience with Tumblr! While we all have accounts there, none of us are heavy users of the site and so feel woefully unprepared to make the best decisions in getting the group set up.

We are seeking volunteers to discuss setting up a Tumblr satellite group for the SWG. No particular experience is necessary--just a willingness to help us iron our the particulars and probably answer the occasional silly question! :) We will also eventually be seeking moderators for the Tumblr group and will give strong preference to those who have helped to get the group set up.

If you're interested in helping out with this, please comment on this post with your email address, as well as your preference for how we hold the discussion (email, LiveJournal, Yahoo! mailing list, etc.). If there is a particular venue where you will not participate in discussion, please let us know that as well. All comments are screened and we will not unscreen any comment with personal information in it. You may also email us at [email protected], if you prefer.
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Date: 2013-09-18 10:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyelleth.livejournal.com
Oshun's rant notwithstanding (I agree on a few aspects, but by no means all, and I'm not actually interested in discussing them), I do think the SWG could benefit from setting up a tumblr presence; maybe even help improve the tone of fannish engagement there, and ultimately draw more members for the site as well, so this seems like a good move. I don't think it'd be going the way of the dodo otherwise since there does seem to be sustained interest even so - you're ensuring that the SWG is a varied and active place and that keeps people coming back says she as she glances at all her unfinished SoWD fics.

But as for tumblr proper - the best way to create an SWG space seems to be via a group-modded blog sideblog. Sideblog because tumblr doesn't permit that feature for main ones (that would require a shared email and password). You can set that up via the dropdown menu on your name via any of the tumblr blue pages > create new blog, and then invite people to help mod on http://www.tumblr.com/blog/YOUR-URL/members. Other users will still be able to follow it, though sideblogs are not able to follow back, similar to how people can join communities here on LJ, but communities can't friend anybody.

The rest I suppose depends on how you're planning to run it - announcements? A platform similar to this one where people can publish their fic (I don't think there is a need for that since most fic writers seem to prefer the control that their own blogs allow them - they can't delete things they'd submit, for example), discussion, something else?

Anyways, I would be tentatively interested to help with that. You know my email, and either LJ or email would be great as discussion venue. I wouldn't mind Y!Groups either, but with the recent changes I don't know if that would ideal for everyone involved.
Edited Date: 2013-09-18 10:29 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-09-18 08:02 pm (UTC)
hhimring: Tolkien's monogram (Tolkien)
From: [personal profile] hhimring
I think this is a good idea, but unfortunately can't offer any constructive comments.
I'm puzzled by many aspects of Tumblr and more or less failing to figure out some of the most basic things.
I do think any important announcements that you'd really want to be picked up on there, would have to be "queued" if possible.
But Elleth knows all about that of course--and I don't even know how it works!

Date: 2013-09-19 01:14 am (UTC)
ladybrooke: (Arthur Rackham)
From: [personal profile] ladybrooke
Right, so my thoughts:

Even though I am basically no longer using Tumblr (for many reasons), a SWG tumblr sounds like a good idea.

However, I don't think that either stories or discussions being posted there is a good idea (links to stories are good though).

Discussions? Even if you get everyone using the SWG to agree to rules, you can't stop if from spreading outside of those people. So even if everyone agrees to be civil, all it takes is one person outside of that sphere running across it, and now you have somebody being the focus of harassment, again.

I don't know. I like discussions on livejournal or forums, where they are limited by rules and moderated. Tumblr's like the Wild West, though. You can't enforce any rules on there, because there is no control by moderators once it's been reblogged.

Maybe I'm just more doubtful than I should be. But imo, even if we try to make a home for like minded people, we're going to get everyone else beating the door down and refusing to follow those rules. I just don't see how it's possible to maintain civil, reasonable discussion for any length of time given the limitations inherent in Tumblr.

Date: 2013-09-20 06:51 am (UTC)
hhimring: Tolkien's monogram (Tolkien)
From: [personal profile] hhimring
So, considering newsletters:
On the one hand, there's the idea of posting a newsletter to let Tumblrites know what's going on elsewhere--at the SWG Archive especially and anything Silmish not on Tumblr. (Similar to the monthly newsletter on the Archive--or even actually a version of that.). Probably the primary idea?

Besides that, however, it would also be possible to have a regular update with Tumblr content: a collection of links to Silmish stories, art and discussion threads on Tumblr for one which could invite submission from Tumblrites. (Inviting submissions would certainly make SWG look more open.)
If this was a moderated collection of links--rather than allowing people to post actual content (stories and art) and start discussions on the blog themselves, it would presumably prevent or at least minimize some of the issues that people have been worrying about, as the lack of access to delete or edit submitted content and the risk of discussions going viral or vicious. It would, however, be more work for the moderators, obviously.

Considerations re art: there are proportionally more artists out there on Tumblr than on the other venues, so you could potentially get more art than you expected--although most of them would have to discover SWG first. Perhaps more importantly, as re-posting art is a major aspect of Tumblr culture, you would have to take care to specify original art rather than re-posted art (assuming that is the intention).

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